Ordine Patriarcale di S. Ignazio d'Antiochia

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Re: ...Patriarcato..

Messaggioda AIKIDO77 » venerdì 3 luglio 2009, 18:54

aldebaran ha scritto:Non credo che il sig. Antonio volesse pubblicizzare il Patriarcato...che in tutta verità non ne ha proprio bisogno in virtù dell'attenta, oculata e ridotta predisposizione ai conferimenti onorifici.
Mi sia consentito evidenziare, ma assolutamente non in tono polemico, che ho spesso letto proprio in questo forum, che ritengo sempre e comunque stupendo, interventi tesi a , mi sia passato il termine, "Sponsorizzare" quel ramo a discapito di quell'altro ecc, ecc..
Non se ne dolgano coloro che si sentiranno offesi ed idignati, ed ai quali sono pronto a porgere le mie scuse...ma permettetemi...visto che mi Onoro di essere annoverato nei ranghi dei Cavalieri del Patrircato di Sant'Ignazio d'Antiochia...di non essere nel profondo del mio essere considerato figlio di un Dio minore.

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Re: Ordine Patriarcale di S. Ignazio d'Antiochia

Messaggioda Angelo Cintini » sabato 4 luglio 2009, 8:10

sabaudo74 ha scritto:Esiste un sito internet per vedere l'Ordine?


Per quanto ne so, non esiste un sito internet dell'Ordine, ma è possibile informarsi in proposito al link seguente:

http://www.tricolore-italia.com/pdf/spec/Tricolore-n226-Speciale-OPSIA-200609.pdf

Si tratta, a mio avviso, di un'interessante monografia.

Pur non appartenendo all'Ordine, condivido pienamente l'opinione di Aldebaran e di AIKIDO77.

Cordialmente,

Angelo Cintini
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Re: Ordine Patriarcale di S. Ignazio d'Antiochia

Messaggioda nicolad72 » sabato 4 luglio 2009, 13:21

Un Ordine che è tale solo di nome e non nel diritto... ricordatelo sempre...

si tratta di una decorazione ecclesiastica utilizzabile solo all'interno del patriarcato di antiochia e che (in modo assai discutibile) attribuisce ai propri gradi dei titoli cavallereschi senza però averne titolo e diritto.

Noto che in questa discussione intervengono persone che fanno un (unico) intervento o pochissimi interventi a supporto di tesi strampalate sulla FH del patriarca di atiochia e poi spariscono, citando sempre le solite e strasmentite fonti (non sempre disinteressate).
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Re: Ordine Patriarcale di S. Ignazio d'Antiochia

Messaggioda Pasquale M. M. Onorati » sabato 4 luglio 2009, 13:54

Perfettamente d'accordo con Nicolad 72, mi domando, ma perchè questa discussione non viene bloccata? Le regole del forum non stabiliscono che al suo interno si possa parlare solo di Ordini riconosciuti? Cordialmente.
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Re: Ordine Patriarcale di S. Ignazio d'Antiochia

Messaggioda nicolad72 » sabato 4 luglio 2009, 14:24

Più che riconosciuti direi censiti (in base ad una serie di parametri di ordine scientifico) nel registo della commissione internazionale per lo studio degli ordini cavallereschi.

In questo registro (versone 2006) troviamo

ICOC register 2006 ha scritto:
F. ECCLESIASTICAL DECORATIONS
As there has been a substantial increase in the number of Ecclesiastical Decorations being worn socially, the Commission, after some hesitation, has decided to include in the Register a list of such decorations as are currently bestowed directly by the Patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox Church, or by the heads of Autocephalous or Autonomous Churches of that rite, and by the Archbishop of Canterbury as Primus Inter Pares of the Anglican Communion. It is to be clearly understood that the decorations listed below are not considered by the Commission to be Chivalric in nature even though several may use the term “Order” in their styles and imitate Chivalric titles.
We invite these Authorities to use more proper terms for any future creations of awards.
Nevertheless, the Commission accepts that these Ecclesiastical Decorations possess full validity as awards of merit or honours within the respective Churches which have instituted them. However, as none of the Eastern Orthodox Patriarchal Sees possess any type of direct Sovereignty, nor indeed does the Archbishop of Canterbury, the decorations instituted by them may not be deemed as equivalent to those bestowed by the Roman Pontiff not only in his Spiritual Capacity but also in his temporal position as Sovereign of the Vatican City State.
The Commission will include in this category of the Register only those decorations actually bestowed directly by the High Ecclesiastical authority in question.
None of those bodies, which are often created as a purely private initiative, and which subsequently place themselves under the “protection” of a Patriarchal See or Archbishopric may be included in the Register.
Protection is an attribute of Sovereignty, which none of these Sees actually posses. The following is a provisional list which may be augmented in the future.

Eastern Catholic Churches
ANTIOCH, ALEXANDRIA & JERUSALEM, PATRIARCHATE OF (Greek Melkite)
Order of the Holy Cross of Jerusalem
Founded: 1945.
Ribbon: Black & red.
Grand Master: H.B. Patriarch Gregorios III Laham (b. 1933).

ANTIOCH & SYRIA, PATRIARCHATE OF (Uniate-Syrian Catholic)

Order of Saint Ignatius of Antioch
Founded: 1985.
Ribbon: Red.
Grand Master: H.B. Patriarch Mar Ignace Pierre VIII (Grégoire) Abdel-Ahad (b. 1930).

Anglican Communion

CANTERBURY, ARCHBISHOPRIC OF (Church of England)

Cross of Saint Augustine of Canterbury
Founded: Archbishop Michael Ramsey 19 February 1965.
Ribbon: Canterbury blue.
Grand Master: The Most Revd. and Rt. Hon. Rowan Douglas Williams Archbishop of Canterbury (b. 1950).

Autocephalous Orthodox Churches

CYPRUS, ARCHBISHOPRIC OF (Greek Orthodox)

Order of Orthodox Hospitallers[1]
Founded: H.B. Archbishop Makarios III in 1972.
Ribbon: Red.
Grand Master: H.B. Chrysostomos II Greek Orthodox Archbishop of Cyprus (b. 1941).

JERUSALEM, PATRIARCHATE OF (Greek Orthodox)

Order of the Orthodox Crusaders of the Holy Sepulchre
Ribbon: Red.
Grand Master: H.B. Patriarch Theophilus III (Giannopoulos) of Jerusalem (b. 1952).

POLISH AUTOCEPHALOUS ORTHODOX CHURCH

t. Mary Magdalene
Founded: H.E. Vassili, Metropolitan of Warsaw and of All Poland.
Grand Master: H.B. Sawwa, Metropolitan of Warsaw and of All Poland (b. 1938).
 
RUSSUAN ORTHODOX CHURCH (MOSCOW PATRIARCATE)[2]
 
St. Apostle Andrew, the First-Called
Founded: H.H. Pimen Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (1910-1990) and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 28 December 1988.
Supreme Order - only for Primates of Orthodox Churches.
Ribbon: Green.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Vladimir Equal-to-Apostles
Founded: H.H. Alexius I Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (1877-1970) and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church in 1957.
Ribbon: Claret (coleur du Bordeaux).
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
Glory and Honour
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 25 March 2004.
Ribbon: Blue (d’azur).
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Alexius Metropolitan of Moscow and All Russia
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 25 March 2004.
Ribbon: Golden.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Daniel Prince of Moscow
Founded: H.H. Pimen Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (1910 - 1990) and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 28 December 1988.
Ribbon: Orange.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Sergius of Radonezh
Founded: H.H. Pimen Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (1910 - 1990) and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 26 December 1978.
Ribbon: Dark green.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Seraphim of Sarov
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 25 March 2004.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Innocent Metropolitan of Moscow and Kolomna
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 28 December 1996.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Olga, Equal to the Apostles
Founded: H.H. Pimen Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (1910-1990) and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 28 December 1988. Only for ladies.
Ribbon: Dark blue.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Macarius Metropolitan of Moscow and All Russia
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 17 July. 2001.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Dimitry Donskoy
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 1 October 2004.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
St. Andrew Rublev
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 17 February 2001.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
Patriarchal Award of St. Barbara the Great-Martyr
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia in June 2006.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
Patriarchal Award of Maternity
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia 5 October 2006.
Grand Master: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
 
Ukrainian Orthodox Church
 
Sts. Anthony and Theodosy of Pechery
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
St. Vladimir Equal-to-the-Apostles
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
The Christmas
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 2002, the statute is authorized August 2004.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
St. Nestor the Chronicler
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in about 2002, the statute was authorized 17 April 2003.
Ribbon: Golden.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
St. Ilia of Murom
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church 17 April 2003.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
The Apostle St. John, the Theologian
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in August 2004.
Ribbon: Blue.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
St. Agapit of Pechery
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church 17 April 2003.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
 
St. Barbara the Great-Martyr
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church 17 April 2003. Only for ladies.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
Christmas - 2000 Years
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in 2000.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
St. Anne, the Righteous
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church 24 February 2007.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
St. Catherine, the Great-Martyr
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church 24 February 2007.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
Kharkov Council of Bishops - 15 Years
Founded: H.B. Vladimir Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine and the Holy Synod of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church 31 May 2007.
Grand Master: H.B. Vladimir (Victor Markianovich Sobodan) Metropolitan of Kiev and All Ukraine, Primate of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (b. 1935).
 
 
Latvian Orthodox Church
 
St. John the Martyr, Archbishop of Riga
Founded: H.Em. Alexander Metropolitan of Riga and All Latvia 27 May 2006.
Ribbon: Violet with a white-red-white middle stripe (from the colouring of the Patron Saint’s mandya).
Grand Master: H.Em. Alexander (Kudriashov) Metropolitan of Riga and All Latvia, Primate of the Latvian Orthodox Church (b. 1939).
 
 
Orthodox Church of Moldova
 
St. Stephen the Great
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy  Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 17 July 2002 at the request of H.Em. Vladimir Metropolitan of Chisinau and All Moldova.
Grand Master: H.Em. Vladimir (Nikolai Vasilyevich Kantaryan) Metropolitan of Kishinev (Chisinau) and All Moldova, Primate of the Orthodox Church of Moldova (b. 1952).
 
St. Paisius Velichkovsky
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 17 July 2002 at the request of H.Em. Vladimir Metropolitan of Chisinau and All Moldova.
Grand Master: H.Em. Vladimir (Nikolai Vasilyevich Kantaryan) Metropolitan of Kishinev (Chisinau) and All Moldova, Primate of the Orthodox Church of Moldova (b. 1952).
 
St. Paraskeva
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church 17 July 2002 at the request of H.Em. Vladimir Metropolitan of Chisinau and All Moldova. Only for ladies.
Grand Master: H.Em. Vladimir (Nikolai Vasilyevich Kantaryan) Metropolitan of Kishinev (Chisinau) and All Moldova, Primate of the Orthodox Church of Moldova (b. 1952).
 
 
Estonian Orthodox Church
 
St. Isidore of Juriev
Founded: H.Em. Cornelius Jakobs Metropolitan of Tallinn and All Estonia and the Local Council of the Estonian Orthodox Church 1 December 2006.
Grand Master: H.Em. Cornelius (Vyacheslav Nikolayevich Yacobs) Metropolitan of Tallinn and All Estonia, Primate of the Estonian Orthodox Church (b. 1924).
 
 
Belorussian Exarchate (Belorussian Orthodox Church)
 
The Cross of St. Euphrosinia, Princess of Polotsk
Founded: H.Em. Philaret Metropolitan of Minsk and Slutsk, Patriarchal Exarch for All Belarus, and the Holy Synod of the Belorussian Orthodox Church in September 1998.
Grand Master: H.Em. Philaret (Kirill Varfolomeevich Vakhromeyev) Metropolitan of Minsk and Slutsk, Patriarchal Exarch for All Belorussia (b. 1935).
 
St. Cyril of Turov
Founded: H.Em. Philaret  Metropolitan of Minsk and Slutsk, Patriarchal Exarch for All Belarus, and the Holy Synod of the Belorussian Orthodox Church between 1998 and 2006.
Grand Master: H.Em. Philaret (Kirill Varfolomeevich Vakhromeyev) Metropolitan of Minsk and Slutsk, Patriarchal Exarch for All Belarus (b. 1935).
 
 
Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia
 
Synodal Order of the Icon of Mother of God “of the Sign”
Founded: H.Em. Laurus Metropolitan of Eastern America and New York and the Synod of Bishops of the Russian Orthodox Church Outside of Russia in April 2007.
Ribbon: Blue (d’azur).
Grand Master: H.Em. Laurus (Vasily Skurla) Metropolitan of Eastern America and New York, First Hierarch of the R.O.C.O.R. (b. 1928).
 
 
The publiс awards under patronage and protection of the Russian Orthodox Church
 
St. Tryphon
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church) 22 February 1995.
Conceded: Special Committee directed by Metropolitan Clement of Kalouga and Borovsk, nominated President of the Commission 6 July 1995 by the Patriarch and the Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church.
 
St. Dimitry Tsarevich of Uglich and Moscow
Founded: H.H. Alexius II Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia and the Holy Synod of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Russian welfare fund for children 29 September 1997.
Conceded: H.H. Alexius II (Alexey Mikhailovich Ridiger) Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia (b. 1929).
 
 
Autonomous Orthodox Churches
 
 
FINNISH ORTHODOX CHURCH
 
Order of Holy Lamb
Founded: 20 June 1935.
Ribbon: Blue-grey, with white stripes near each end.
Grand Master: H.B. Leo (Makkonen) Archbishop of Karelia and all Finland (b. 1948).
 
 

[1] H.E. The President of Cyprus is the Temporal Protector of this Order. Only Orthodox Christians may be members of the Order, but others may receive a “badge of religion” for their services
[2] Particular thanks to the contributors: Alexey M. Kataev and Stanislaw W. Dumin.

 


Tra cui anche il nostro... ma leggiamo mooolto bene le premesse e la chiara natura di queste istituzioni
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Re: Ordine Patriarcale di S. Ignazio d'Antiochia

Messaggioda Mario Volpe » sabato 4 luglio 2009, 15:48

nicolad72 ha scritto:Noto che in questa discussione intervengono persone che fanno un (unico) intervento o pochissimi interventi a supporto di tesi strampalate sulla FH del patriarca di atiochia e poi spariscono, citando sempre le solite e strasmentite fonti (non sempre disinteressate).


Ah meno male, credevo di essere rimasto il solo ad accorgersene... Sono d'accordo nel chiudere questa discussione e tutte le altre riguardanti questa istituzione, nelle quali si è abbondantemente avuto modo di analizzare sotto ogni possile aspetto la questione (lasciandole comunque visibili per chi fosse interessato), e che vengono ormai riaperte sempre dagli stessi "soliti noti" unicamente per pubblicizzare l'Ordine stesso (che evidentemente ne ha tanto bisogno)...
Si Deus nobiscum quis contra nos
(motto dell'Ordine di Filippo il Magnanimo - Assia-Darmstadt)
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